Is that Obamacare or Romneycare? Or both???
I don't know and I don't care, but the point is these professional politicians will say anything to get your vote.
And oddly it sure seems like Obamacare was based on Romneycare, which many says was invented by Mitt Romney when he was governor of Massachusetts.
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Review of ‘Obamacare’ puts GOP spotlight on Romney’s Massachusetts health care law
By Philip Rucker and Dan Balz, Published: March 26
SAN DIEGO — Health care was supposed to be Mitt Romney’s Achilles’ heel: The state overhaul he championed as governor of Massachusetts is so similar to the sweeping federal law conservatives deride as “Obamacare” that it was once widely regarded as a big enough liability to doom his presidential chances.
But Romney remains the overwhelming favorite in a topsy-turvy campaign in which health care has rarely been the driving issue, and he is picking up the support of prominent conservatives as he moves toward securing his party’s nomination.
This week, as the Supreme Court reviews the Obama administration’s health-care law, Romney’s remaining opponents for the Republican presidential nomination are trying to capitalize on what may be one of their last opportunities to deny him the prize.
Rick Santorum is urgently attacking “Romneycare,” arguing that Romney would effectively forfeit one of the biggest issues Republicans have to run against Obama.
Santorum pounces
His campaign has fired off daily e-mails and videos highlighting the Massachusetts law, while the former senator from Pennsylvania has been particularly animated in talking about the issue; he uttered an expletive Sunday night at a New York Times reporter who asked him to clarify his line of attack on Romney.
“It’s the best opportunity for us to make the case about big government, to make the case about individual liberty, to make the case about budget deficits being blown wide open, to make the case about people not getting quality health care and have rationing of health care and government mandating you and making you do something against your economic interests, against your religious interests,” Santorum told reporters Monday over breakfast in Washington.
Calling health care “the mega issue,” he argued that Romney is “the one guy who can’t make the case.”
To emphasize his differences with Romney on health care, Santorum held a campaign event Monday on the steps of the Supreme Court as the justices were concluding the first of three days of oral arguments.
He told reporters that the Massachusetts law is “one of the reasons the jury’s still very much out” on Romney’s candidacy.
GOP voters cite economy
But it is difficult to measure how much it has hurt Romney in the nominating contest. Just 6 percent of Republicans nationally rated health care as the top issue, well behind the economy and general dissatisfaction with government, in a March Gallup poll. In January, a Washington Post-ABC News poll found that 27 percent of Republicans and GOP-leaning independents said Romney’s health-care record was a major reason to oppose him. But 21 percent saw it as a reason to support him.
Romney’s biggest problem may be that his overhaul in Massachusetts places him ideologically to the left of much of the GOP base. In three big states whose primaries Romney won — Florida, Illinois and Ohio — about four in 10 Republican voters called Romney “not conservative enough” in exit polls.
“It’s clearly a vulnerability for Governor Romney, but by coming out so strongly for repealing and replacing Obamacare, while he may not have completely neutralized the issue, he’s taken a good deal of the sting out of it,” GOP pollster Whit Ayres said.
Romney has been trying to neutralize his problems with the conservative opponents of the Obama law by recommitting to repealing it.
“There are a lot of reasons not to like Obamacare,” he said Monday during a campaign stop in San Diego. “My colleagues the other day listed a whole series of them — and there are about 30 things — and I chuckled as I looked down, just shaking my head at the things Obamacare is doing.”
But Romney is picking up more conservative support as impediments to his nomination appear to be diminishing. On Monday, he trumpeted the endorsements of a handful of prominent conservative leaders — House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), American Conservative Union Chairman Al Cardenas and tea party star Sen. Mike Lee (Utah) — who called on Republicans to unite behind Romney.
Repackaging issue
Looking toward a campaign against the president this fall, Romney has begun to frame the health-care law as just one part of a broader overreach by the administration, which he says represents “an attack on economic freedom unlike anything we have ever seen before.”
Yet as Romney visited a medical-device company here that makes artificial spines, delivering a speech in front of a banner that read “Repeal and Replace Obamacare,” he did not directly call for its repeal. Nor did he refer to the week’s activity at the Supreme Court.
And although Romney stands by the Massachusetts program and has at times detailed the differences between it and the federal overhaul, he made no mention of it on Monday.
Instead, he spoke broadly about what he considers a culture of government regulation and taxation brought on by the Obama administration.
“I just don’t think the president and his people understand that as they burden enterprise with taxation and with regulation, they hurt all of us,” Romney said. “This is not just about the business itself being attacked, bad enough as that is, and the employees who work there being attacked, bad enough as that is, but the entire economy, all of America, slows down.”
Romney repeatedly referred to NuVasive, the company that hosted him Monday, and noted that its chief executive, Alexis V. Lukianov, emigrated from Russia to start the business.
“These dreams that people like Alex have had, these dreams are crushed — tax by tax, regulator by regulator, regulation by regulation,” Romney said. “Washington is crushing the dreams and crushing the dreamers. We can’t let it happen.”
Balz reported from Washington. Polling analyst Scott Clement in Washington contributed to this report.
Supreme court weighs all-or-nothing on healthcare law
"Annual U.S. healthcare spending totals $2.6 trillion, about 18 percent of the annual gross domestic product. That translates to $8,402 per person every year" - So under Obamacare that mythical American family of 4 will be expected to pay $33,600 a year in taxes to cover the medical expenses of their fellow Americans????
I Googled "average American income" and got figures of around $45,000 to $50,000 for a typical American household. Which means that the mythical American family of 4 will have to pay over half of it's income for medical expenses under Obamacare.
One semantics problem with Obamacare is that it is billed as "medical insurance". That is 100 percent BS. Obamacare not insurance, but the government forcing you to pre-pay your medical expenses.
I also consider Obamacare to be a government welfare program for doctors and businesses that provide medical services. That is because the government is forcing you to pay for medical services in advance and of course the cash from those purchases will go to the doctors and businesses that provide medical services.
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Supreme court weighs all-or-nothing on healthcare law
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By James Vicini and Joan Biskupic
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Supreme Court opened its final day weighing the fate of President Barack Obama's healthcare overhaul, considering on Wednesday whether the entire law can stand should the court rule against its centerpiece mandate that most people buy insurance.
On this, the third and last day of historic arguments, the nine justices were due to hear whether the rest of the law, Obama's signature domestic accomplishment, can survive should the court decide that Congress exceeded its powers by requiring that most Americans obtain insurance by 2014 or face a penalty.
The arguments began after the high court issued opinions in other, unrelated cases.
The Obama administration faced skeptical questioning on Tuesday from the court's five-member conservative majority on the insurance requirement, known as the individual mandate. But it was unclear whether it would strike it down or let it stand.
A ruling on the insurance mandate appeared likely to come down to Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Anthony Kennedy, two conservatives who pummeled the administration's lawyer with questions on Tuesday.
If even one of the five conservative Republican appointees joined the four liberal Democratic appointees on the court, the law would be upheld. If the five conservatives stay united, the law would fall.
The justices are expected to meet in private on Friday to discuss the issues heard during the arguments this week and take a preliminary secret vote on how they plan to rule.
The justices then will begin drafting their written opinions in the private confines of their chambers - a process that is expected to result in the rulings being announced by late June before the court goes on its traditional summer recess.
At a later one-hour session on Wednesday, starting at 1 p.m. EDT (1700 GMT), the justices will review whether Congress violated the Constitution by coercing the states to dramatically expand the Medicaid healthcare program for the poor, providing coverage for an estimated 17 million Americans.
As the court began its last day hearing arguments on the law - six hours spread over three days making it the longest on a single issue in more than 44 years - the crowd of supporters and protesters outside the high court was smaller and more subdued.
FINANCIAL STAKES
A Supreme Court decision striking down the law would be seen as a huge political and legal defeat for Obama ahead of the November 6 election, when he seeks another four-year term.
A ruling upholding the law would be a major vindication for Obama, but could make healthcare an even bigger issue in the presidential and congressional elections. Republican presidential candidates all oppose the law and could fight even harder to repeal if the court leaves in place the entire statute.
The stakes could not be higher, financially, legally and politically.
The law, which constitutes the U.S. healthcare system's biggest overhaul in nearly 50 years, seeks to provide health insurance to more than 30 million previously uninsured Americans and to slow down soaring medical costs.
The law has wide ramifications for company costs and for the health sector, affecting insurers, drugmakers, device companies and hospitals.
The healthcare investment bank Leerink Swann said in a research note that Wednesday's session was more important for managed care stocks and whether the individual mandate can be separated from the rest of the law.
For hospital stocks, it said the loss of expanded coverage, through the Medicaid program or through the individual mandate, would be a negative development.
Annual U.S. healthcare spending totals $2.6 trillion, about 18 percent of the annual gross domestic product. That translates to $8,402 per person every year.
For the Supreme Court, the Wednesday arguments will complete a thorough legal and constitutional review of the law, the most important piece of social legislation in decades.
The challengers, 26 states and a small business trade group, were represented by Paul Clement, a former solicitor general during George W. Bush's presidency.
Clement argued in written briefs that the insurance mandate was at the heart of the law and so critical to its operation that all of it must be invalidated if the requirement to buy health insurance is stripped from it.
He also argued that the Medicaid expansion was unconstitutional and the entire law should be declared invalid on those grounds as well.
TOP LAWYERS
Solicitor General Donald Verrilli, the Obama administration's top courtroom lawyer, will also argue on Wednesday. He has defended the Medicaid expansion on the grounds Congress clearly has the power to set the terms under which the federal government disburses funds to the states.
Also arguing on Wednesday will be Deputy Solicitor General Edwin Kneedler, advocating the administration's position that if the insurance mandate is struck down, then only two other provisions would have to fall.
Those provisions bar insurers from refusing coverage because of a person's pre-existing medical condition and from charging more due to a person's medical history.
The court has appointed an outside private lawyer, H. Bartow Farr III, to argue that all other provisions can survive without the insurance mandate. That was the ruling last year by a U.S. court of appeals in Atlanta.
The Supreme Court cases are National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius, No. 11-393; U.S. Department of Health and Human Services v. Florida, No. 11-398; and Florida v. Department of Health and Human Services, No. 11-400.
(Additional reporting by Jeremy Pelofsky and Ian Simpson in Washington and Lewis Krauskopf in New York; editing by Howard Goller and Will Dunham)
Obama's insurance requirement not the only mandate
I suspect ALL the programs mentioned here are unconstitutional. Hell I suspect 99.9 percent of the laws passed by the U.S. Congress are unconstitutional.
The problem is that because the cost of suing in the court system is so expensive it is impossible for any normal working person or small business to sue and demand that the laws be declared unconstitutional.
The other problem is that the Supreme Court sadly seems to buy the BS line that ANY law passed is part of "regulating interstate commence" and therefor constitutional.
That logic says that is somebody grows marijuana in Arizona the marijuana MIGHT be transported to California and therefor MIGHT effect interstate commerce, so therefor the Constitution gives Congress the power to regulate marijuana.
If that logic is true then the same logic applies to liquor and there would have been no need to pass the 18th Amendment which allowed the Feds to create the Prohibition.
That was the argument used in the last Federal medical marijuana case in California. The Supremes also also agreed with the same convoluted logic when it comes to guns, and said Congress has the right to regulated guns, because a gun made in Arizona, MIGHT be transported to California and therefor might effect interstate commerence.
I am sure that if the Founders were still around they would have gotten out their guns and attempted to overthrow the government years ago.
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Obama's insurance requirement not the only mandate
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The individual insurance requirement that the Supreme Court is reviewing isn't the first federal mandate involving health care.
There's a Medicare payroll tax on workers and employers, for example, and a requirement that hospitals provide free emergency services to indigents. Health care is full of government dictates, some arguably more intrusive than President Barack Obama's overhaul law.
It's a wrinkle that has caught the attention of the justices.
Most of the mandates apply to providers such as hospitals and insurers. For example, a 1990s law requires health plans to cover at least a 48-hour hospital stay for new mothers and their babies. Such requirements protect some consumers while indirectly raising costs for others.
One mandate affects just about everybody: Workers must pay a tax to finance Medicare, which collects about $200 billion a year.
It's right on your W-2 form, line 6, "Medicare tax withheld." Workers must pay it even if they don't have health insurance. Employees of a company get to split the tax with their employer. The self-employed owe the full amount, 2.9 percent of earnings.
Lindsey Donner, a small-business owner from San Diego, pays the Medicare tax although she and her husband are uninsured. Donner, 27, says she doesn't see much difference between the mandate that workers help finance Medicare and the health care law's requirement that nearly everyone has to have some sort of health insurance.
"My understanding of what is going on in the Supreme Court is that it seems to be something of a semantics issue," she said. "Ultimately, I don't see the big difference. If I am paying for Medicare, why can't I also be paying into something that would help me right now or in five years if I want to have children?"
Donner is a copy writer for businesses; her husband specializes in graphics design. In the past they had a health plan with a high deductible, but they found they were paying monthly premiums for insurance they never used — something she said they couldn't afford on a tight budget.
Under the law, people such as Donner and her husband would have to get insurance or pay a fine. But they may qualify for federal subsidies to help pay premiums for policies that would be more comprehensive. Preventive care would be covered with no co-payments.
"We have jobs, we pay our bills, we pay our taxes," said Donner. "Yet it is very difficult to find affordable, reasonable health care."
There's no question the Medicare payroll tax is a government mandate, said Mark Hayes, former chief health counsel for the Republican staff of the Senate Finance Committee.
But he makes a distinction between the payroll tax and the individual health insurance mandate in Obama's health care law.
Congress used more clearly defined constitutional powers when it created Medicare. "The power to tax and the power to spend," Hayes said. "Here, with the individual mandate, it's a different question — regulating interstate commerce. This is a novel question from a legal standpoint."
Obama's law makes health insurance both a right and a responsibility for most. It would provide coverage to more than 90 percent of the population, subsidizing private insurance for millions. But it also requires nearly everyone to carry health insurance, either through an employer or a government program, or by buying an individual policy.
The mandate is well within the power of Congress to regulate interstate commerce, the administration and the law's supporters contend. Opponents say Congress overstepped constitutional bounds by effectively requiring individuals to purchase a particular product.
Supreme Court justices are trying to determine the distinction between Obama's law and other mandates, and whether it makes a difference.
Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Anthony Kennedy raised the matter during oral arguments last week.
Ginsburg brought up Social Security as an example, likening it to a government old-age annuity that everyone is forced to purchase.
"It just seems very strange to me that there's no question we can have a Social Security system (despite) all the people who say: 'I'm being forced to pay for something I don't want,'" she said.
"There's something very odd about that, that the government can take over the whole thing and we all say, 'Oh, yes that's fine,' but if the government wants to ... preserve private insurers, it can't do that."
Kennedy mused that Congress could have created a Medicare-style program for the uninsured, run exclusively by the government without the involvement of private insurers.
"Let's assume that (Congress) could use the tax power to raise revenue and to just have a national health service, single payer," said Kennedy. "How does that factor into our analysis? In one sense, it can be argued that this is what the government is doing; it ought to be honest about the power that it's using and use the correct power.
"On the other hand, it means that since ... Congress can do it anyway, we give a certain amount of latitude," Kennedy continued. "I'm not sure which way the argument goes."
The case may well turn on how Kennedy decides.
Social Security and Medicare are no longer controversial mandates because they are part of the social fabric, said Hayes, the former GOP congressional aide. Not so the health care law's mandate. "Today, this is controversial because it is novel from a legal standpoint and also new from a societal standpoint," he said.
The distinction frustrates supporters of the health care law.
"It's so crazy to think that a society that has Social Security and Medicare would not find this (law) constitutional," said MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, who advised both the Obama administration and Massachusetts lawmakers as they developed the state mandate in the 2006 law that Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney championed as governor.
"The payroll tax is worse than the mandate, because that is a program where we take your money and there is no ability to get out of it," Gruber said. Citizens can avoid the health insurance mandate by paying a penalty to the Internal Revenue Service.
Other federal health care mandates include:
— The 1986 Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act. It requires nearly all hospitals to treat and stabilize anyone needing emergency care, regardless of ability to pay or legal U.S. residency. Critics call it an unfunded mandate. It was part of a budget law signed by President Ronald Reagan.
— The 1996 Mental Health Parity Act. It prohibits group health plans from setting lower annual or lifetime dollar limits for mental health benefits as compared with medical and surgical benefits.
— The 1996 Newborns' and Mothers' Health Protection Act. It requires plans offering maternity coverage to pay for at a least a 48-hour hospital stay following most normal deliveries, and 96 hours following a Caesarean section. The mental health parity and maternal health laws were signed by President Bill Clinton.
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