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Screw the 5th Amendment. The cops will do anything to get a conviction. And I guess in this case it means declaring Jared Loughner insane, forcing him to see a shrink, and then using everything Jared Loughner tells the shrink in his trial against him.
In this case I think it is almost certain that Jared Loughner murdered all those folks in Tucson, I mean he was arrested by the crowd at the scene and the gun taken away from him. Do the cops really need to use his shrink to get a confession out of him???? It almost sounds like a repeat of how the Maricopa County Sheriff forced Johnathan Doody to confess to the Buddhist Tempe Murders in Phoenix!
Jared Loughner files focus of new flap Lawyer: Psychiatry sessions are private by Michael Kiefer - Feb. 14, 2012 09:35 PM The Republic | azcentral.com An attorney for Jared Loughner, the defendant in last year's mass shooting near Tucson, has asked a federal judge not to allow prosecutors to see notes on Loughner's sessions with a prison psychologist. When the psychologist, Dr. Christina Pietz, submitted her report on Loughner's competency earlier this month, she included 62 pages of notes from her meetings with Loughner from October 2011 to February 2012. Loughner's attorney, Judy Clarke, asked U.S. District Judge Larry Burns to keep some of the notes from prosecutors because "they contain potentially incriminating statements allegedly made by Mr. Loughner in response to Dr. Pietz's questioning." Furthermore, Clarke said, the statements were made under duress because Loughner was ordered into treatment. Loughner, 23, is accused of shooting 19 people on Jan. 8, 2011, outside a supermarket near Tucson where then-Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was hosting a political event. Six people died and 13 were wounded, including Giffords.
Loughner loses appeals over forced medicationI guess this means you are guilty till proven innocent in Federal court. And of course the Feds are going to pump Jared Lee Loughner full of dope until they can get a shrink to say he is not insane. Of course after that happens he will be put on trial, convicted and eventually executed by the Federal government.I suspect that Loughner is guilty as hell, after all he was arrested at the murder scene by the same people he was attacking and they took the gun away from him. Of course that isn't a problem with me. The problem I have is the Feds seem to want to pump him full of dope, declare him sane, and then execute him. Which to me doesn't seem like he is getting a fair trail. Loughner loses appeals over forced medication
by Jacques Billeaud - Mar. 5, 2012 10:28 AM
A federal appeals court Monday denied a request by the Tucson shooting suspect's lawyers to halt their mentally ill client's forced medication with psychotropic drugs and end his treatment at a Missouri federal prison facility. The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruling clears the way for prison authorities to continue to medicate and treat Jared Lee Loughner. The court also rejected two other appeals by Loughner's lawyers over their client's forced medication. The 23-year-old has pleaded not guilty to 49 charges stemming from the Jan. 8, 2011, shooting in Tucson that killed six people and wounded former U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and 12 others. Loughner is being treated at a Missouri prison facility where he has been forcibly medicated for about seven months in a bid to try to make him mentally fit for trial. U.S. District Judge Larry Burns had ruled that Loughner isn't psychologically fit to stand trial after experts concluded he suffers from schizophrenia. But Burns has said Loughner can eventually be made ready for trial after more treatment in Missouri. His current stay is set to end June 7. Even though psychologists have said Loughner's condition is improving, his lawyers have vigorously fought the government's efforts to medicate him. This summer, the appeals court temporarily halted Loughner's forced medication, but it resumed once mental health experts at the prison concluded that his condition was deteriorating further. Loughner has demonstrated bizarre behavior since his arrest. He was removed from a May 25 court hearing when he lowered his head to within inches of the courtroom table, then lifted his head and began a loud and angry rant. But his psychologist has said that since Loughner has been forcibly medicated, his condition has improved. He sat still and expressionless for seven hours at a hearing in September. At issue is whether prison officials or a judge should decide whether a mentally ill person who poses a danger in prison should be forcibly medicated. Prosecutors said the decision is for prison officials to make, while Loughner's lawyers said it's up to a judge. Thus far, prison officials have made the decision to medicate Loughner. Loughner's attorneys argued that the decision to forcibly medicate their client solely on the basis of an administrative hearing by prison officials had violated his due-process rights. Prosecutors said Loughner's attorneys are asking Burns to substitute his ruling on whether Loughner poses a danger while in prison with the conclusions of mental health professionals.
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